so, after your conversation, seeing his social media posts, earlier works and other interviews, you don't think that maga and similar calibre groups were meant to be a target audience? that's weird, because tim does seem like they're intending to influence and persuade people with christian fundamentalist/fascism-appreciating tendencies.
dude. tim's style is anti-effective for his alleged target audience. like, it's WAY too rhizomatic and schizo-rambly incoherent babbling for maga people. sincerely, one doesn't even have to be maga brained to close this book in frustration after a few pages.
his vague poetic allusions to gödel & transfinite sets and logic and quantum physics... are ridiculous. actual experts of said topics instantly recognize that its bullshitting. just dropping cool words doesn't mean they actually understand these topics, and even if they do, the connections they draw are insanely abstract and inaccessible to his target audience to the point of being unintelligible.
i do think that there are some interesting insights and vibes in tim's work, but 99% of it is onanistic filler that's basically entertainment for a tiny niche who 'get' this kind of high-culture riffing. but it just feels obnoxious and unintelligible for most people. + there's the bankrupt ooo approach. (see wolfendale's book DECONSTRUCTING it).
another problematic thought-terminating cliché-like operation is just the littering of unexplained, unjustified allusions to tropes, like 'oh it's the master-slave, materialist, nothingbut, whatever' that's left unexplained, without doing any sincere work to at least accurately represent views you disagree with and show a basic understanding of the motivations for viewing those views as plausible conjectures upon comparison with stuff like ooo along theoretical and epistemic virtues. nah, there's none of that, just a blob of inscrutably structured stream of consciousness.
not that there's anything intrinsically wrong with masturbatory content, but let's be clear; maga and similar people will not change their minds from such obscurantism.
i think it's tim's stated goal. otherwise it's just an autophenomenology dump. but it's obviously too preachy and let-me-convince-you-y for that.
so, after your conversation, seeing his social media posts, earlier works and other interviews, you don't think that maga and similar calibre groups were meant to be a target audience? that's weird, because tim does seem like they're intending to influence and persuade people with christian fundamentalist/fascism-appreciating tendencies.
dude. tim's style is anti-effective for his alleged target audience. like, it's WAY too rhizomatic and schizo-rambly incoherent babbling for maga people. sincerely, one doesn't even have to be maga brained to close this book in frustration after a few pages.
his vague poetic allusions to gödel & transfinite sets and logic and quantum physics... are ridiculous. actual experts of said topics instantly recognize that its bullshitting. just dropping cool words doesn't mean they actually understand these topics, and even if they do, the connections they draw are insanely abstract and inaccessible to his target audience to the point of being unintelligible.
i do think that there are some interesting insights and vibes in tim's work, but 99% of it is onanistic filler that's basically entertainment for a tiny niche who 'get' this kind of high-culture riffing. but it just feels obnoxious and unintelligible for most people. + there's the bankrupt ooo approach. (see wolfendale's book DECONSTRUCTING it).
another problematic thought-terminating cliché-like operation is just the littering of unexplained, unjustified allusions to tropes, like 'oh it's the master-slave, materialist, nothingbut, whatever' that's left unexplained, without doing any sincere work to at least accurately represent views you disagree with and show a basic understanding of the motivations for viewing those views as plausible conjectures upon comparison with stuff like ooo along theoretical and epistemic virtues. nah, there's none of that, just a blob of inscrutably structured stream of consciousness.
not that there's anything intrinsically wrong with masturbatory content, but let's be clear; maga and similar people will not change their minds from such obscurantism.
1) I don't think MAGA is the audience, nor was it ever meant to be. Morton repeatedly addresses the Left in this particular text.
2) I'm sorry you didn't find as much to love about this book as I did.
Why are we expecting Tim to convince other people? Celebrate the marvelous freak. Protect at all costs.