This week Jim O’Shaughnessy (Website | X) joins Humans On The Loop to carry our first on-record conversation on Infinite Loops into bold new terrains! Jim is one of the most renowned investors and asset managers of all the time and the author of several hugely best-selling and influential books on investing, including What Works on Wall Street, Invest Like The Best, and Predicting The Markets of Tomorrow. He also founded the first online investment advisor and holds the patent for “ the origination and fulfillment of stock investment portfolios over a worldwide computer network.” (You heard right!)
After decades of success in wealth management, he left his company in the care of his son Patrick and launched O’Shaughnessy Ventures — a firm that combines “Jim’s deeply rooted interest in all things art, science, investing and tech with his long-held desire to establish positive sum scenarios designed to help promising creators and their inspiring ideas succeed, regardless of age, location, job history or level of education.”
Last fall when I was on his show, we played a game of mind-jazz about “how we can live curious, collaborative and fulfilling lives in our deeply weird, complex, probabilistic world.” For this discussion, I wanted to rotate the axis of our exploration and learn how Jim’s personal experiences have contributed to the frame through which he engages life. Sweeping across scales from candid autobiography to team inquiry into some of the wickedest problems — like how we foster meaningful relationships and balance achievement with humility — we covered a lot of new ground.
I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did and benefit from a fresh take on the mind — and heart — of one of the most exemplary mavericks I know.
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Chapters
0:00:00 - Teaser
0:01:16 - Intro
0:06:23 - Jim’s Backstory
0:31:43 - Crisis Personalities + Creativity vs. Risk Mitigation
0:46:28 - Networks of Trust + Bootstrapped Credentials
0:53:37 - Incenting Trust: Mass Customization + Consensus Reality Collapse
1:06:14 - The Iterated Prisoner’s Dilemma + Trust-Building in Social Networks
1:13:25 - How Do We Design for Flourishing at Scale (or Can We)?
1:21:22 - Markets as Complex Systems
1:29:10- Using (Especially Local) AI to Accelerate Realizing Your Mistakes
1:37:23 - Outro
Mentioned Reading, Listening, & People
From Nowhere: Artists, Writers, and The Precognitive Imagination by Eric Wargo
The Master and His Emissary by Iain McGilchrist
Finite and Infinite Games by James P. Carse
The Status Game by Will Storr
The Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu (John Minford, translator)
Power and Influence: Beyond Formal Authority by John P. Kotter
One Summer: America 1927 by Bill Bryson
Gödel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter
The End of Trust - McSweeney’s Issue 54
Bilawal Sidhu — How to Unite Reality with Imagination - Infinite Loops Podcast
Will Storr — The Status Game - Infinite Loops Podcast
Brendan McCord — AI and The Philosophy of Technology - Infinite Loops Podcast
Adam Aronovich on A Cultural Anthropology for The Psychedelic Internet - Future Fossils Podcast
Reimagining the PhD - Nadia Asparouhova
The TPOT PhD - Priya Rose
So many music festivals have been canceled this year. What’s going on? - Greg Rosalsky for NPR
Cory Doctorow
Doug Rushkoff
Alfred North Whitehead
Josiah Warren
Jed McKenna
Josh Wolfe
Socrates
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I’m co-facilitating a session on “Right Relations with AI” for the School of Wise Innovation’s Spring Cultivator alongside a superb faculty. Cohort starts April 3rd!
The book club is back! Join us for a group reading and discussion of Federico Campagna’s Prophetic Culture: Recreation for Adolescents with asynchronous discussion in the Future Fossils Discord server and a live call on May 3rd.
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